Planning for Success: Legacy, Life, Leadership and Business

Most of our blogs for managed services providers (MSPs) focus on business tips for sales, marketing and technology. But every time I run into Arlin Sorensen, CEO of HTG Peer Groups, he turns the conversation upside down -- always starting with a focus on life-work balance and family. And that's a good thing. Here's why, along with some of the biggest inflection points Arlin has helped me to manage -- without even knowing it -- since 2008.

My latest encounter with Sorensen was at HP Global Partner Conference, where we sat down to dinner with Intel's Eric Townsend and former MSP Tim Brewer. Sorensen arrived with a workbook in hand. The title: "Planning for Success the HTG Way: A proven framework for building and executing plans for your legacy, life, leadership and business."

Sorensen spends considerable time reminding me -- and others -- that all "this" is going to end someday. The business grind. The self-produced stress. Perhaps it's time for us all to focus on the bigger considerations:
  • When you're six feet under what do you want your legacy to be?
  • Did you lead a good life along the way to your final, ultimate exit?
  • Did you lead by example -- at work and at home?
  • And what type of business did you run -- both in terms of the finances and the culture?

My Own Inflection Points

Hard to believe but it has been more than five years since Nine Lives Media launched MSPmentor and The VAR Guy. Another site, WorksWithU, didn't survive for the long haul. But we restored our winning track record with the 2010 launch of Talkin' Cloud, which tracks the world's Top 100 Cloud Services Providers.

There have been plenty of inflection points along the way. Putting them in bullet format seems a little cold, considering how monumental each life event turned out to be. But this gives you a sense of where we've been, and why I continue to heed Sorensen's advice on life-work balance. The inflection points:
  • Nov. 2007: Quitting my full-time job. As did Amy Katz. Together, we co-founded Nine Lives.
  • January 2008: Unveiling MSPmentor and The VAR Guy. And hoping people would show up to read the sites.
  • May 2008: Launching WorksWithU, a Linux-oriented site focused on Ubuntu. I remember discussing the idea with Amy. Her exact words: "The market sounds fun. Let's go for it." She was right. It was fun. And profitable. But not as profitable as our other sites. And it didn't align with our channel focus. So we killed it in 2010.
  • June 2008: Our first paychecks from Nine Lives Media. Amy and I had pumped money into the company but had never taken any out. I was a bit freaked by the whole idea of draining Nine Lives savings even by a few dollars. But Amy was managing the business and made all the finances work -- from the very start.
  • 2009: Somewhere around this time we hired Kim Daniels as senior sales consultant. Amy found Kim through a trusted friend. We soon learned that we could trust Kim with key clientele -- a huge win. Also, she likes DisneyLand. A plus around here.
  • August 2010: Business turns deeply personal. I learn my brother in law -- my wife's brother -- is nearing death from cancer. At the same time, a third-party approaches Nine Lives about buying our business. How can such terrible and wonderful news arrive at the same time? Amy and I ultimately decline the M&A deal when the terms don't sound quite right. I was relieved. I think Amy was, too. Please don't repeat this portion of the story to anyone. The first M&A discussion had been a well-kept secret until this blog. But a lot of time has passed... so now you know.
  • October 2010: I lose my brother in law to cancer. It was the lowest point of my life. He was a hero to my kids. I delivered the eulogy. I never worked so hard to deliver just the right words. Amy and her husband drove down from Boston to Long Island for the funeral. Seeing them delivered a much-needed lift. My business partner emerged as my best friend. Days later, I attended N-able and ConnectWise partner summits. At the N-able conference, Michael Drake of masterIT and Mike Jones of ETG pull me aside and assure me time will heal the wounds. Days later at ConnectWise IT Nation, CEO Arnie Bellini behind closed doors offered some words of wisdom to help me march forward. During the lowest time in my life, a lot of people kept me focused on the brighter days ahead. I'll never forget the support.
  • Late 2010: I think Contributing Managing Editor Charlene O'Hanlon joined us about this time. I honestly don't recall the date because it seems like Charlene has been around here forever. A true pleasure. Talkin' Cloud launched around this time as well.
  • January 2011: Amy and I met in Connecticut. We talked about all the items we're going to need to take Nine Lives to the next level. Talent involving IT, finance and more. But we also realize we need to be ready -- we must have our ducks in a row -- in case we attract more M&A discussions.
  • August 2011: Penton Media acquires Nine Lives. We were ready. Amy had four years of financial records at her fingertips. She was a natural leader at the negotiating table. I just said lots of terms like "SEO" and "community." But really, Penton was attracted to Nine Lives because of Amy's business management skills and the results she delivered. Meanwhile, Larry Walsh over at The 2112 Group congratulates Nine Lives via his blog. I should have returned the gesture sooner. Larry and I compete in some areas. But that doesn't eliminate the fact that I think he's one of the smartest guys in this market, and I deeply respect the fact that he exited Big Media to build his own company.
  • 2012 -- the good: Jessica Davis joined us somewhere early in the year as contributing managing editor. Again, I don't recall the exact date because she just parachuted right into the business and fit right it. Late in the year, Debbie Kane joined Kim Daniels on the sales team. Again, another cultural fit from the start. Amen.
  • 20212 -- the bad: Amy had a nasty tooth infection. It's not my place to say how bad it got. That's Amy's story. But I can say this: She muscled through one of the most difficult years of her life. But things would get worse before they got better. Amy's mother in law died suddenly. Awful times. Each day on the phone we spoke more about family and life. We continued to lean on each other amid the difficult times.
  • 2013 -- the next rally: So here we are five years into the business.We're still expanding; contributing associate blogger CJ Arlotta joins the party. And we're working on some key moves with Penton's IT department.
Oh, and Arlin Sorensen recently handed me that workbook focused on "Legacy, Life, Leadership and Business."

Culture Club

So where am I on the journey Arlin has outlined? Where is Amy? Where is the Nine Lives team? Let me give you an example of the culture around here: The first week of January 2013, Charlene O'Hanlon had double hip replacement surgery. I barely noticed because Charlene is one of the most pleasant people to be around in business. She treated work as a great distraction from her daily therapy and recovery (she's doing awesome, by the way).

The Hard Parts: Legacy and Life

As I look back on the Nine Lives journey so far:
  • Leadership and Business have been the easy parts.
  • Legacy and Life are the hard parts.
Over the past five years, I haven't spent enough time with my wife and kids. But I'm getting better at it. I'm traveling less. My wife and I snuck away from our keyboards today and grabbed some of New York's famous pizza. Tonight, we're heading out with the kids for ice cream. The All American Diet is alive and well here.

I don't know what my legacy will be at home. At least not yet. I'm still working on it. I often reflect on my late brother in law's legacy. He died more than two years ago. My sons -- now ages 14, 12 and 7 -- still mention him daily. And the conversations always trigger smiles instead of tears.

That's a legacy worth pursuing. Memo to Arlin: I'm still working on it. Thanks for the workbook. I'm finally taking some time to open it later tonight. I promise.

Discuss this Article 29

Brad DeSent (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Joe, It is great to take the time to reflect on the past and see how it may affect where we are going. Thanks for sharing your experience. Brad DeSent
Joe Panettieri (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Brad: Thanks for reading. Plenty of people ask me where i'm going next. My standard answer: Forward. Best wishes as you march forward as well. -jp
@ArthurGermain (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Joe, Great, heartfelt commentary. You and Amy have built a business and a culture to be proud of -- and your home life sounds normal as well (maybe a little too much dairy ;) I think we all struggle with work / life balance. The words even contain the same number of letters, so the language doesn't give a clue which way you need to lean. My daughters have seen me in corporate life and since launching my own agency, they've seen me in entrepreneurial life. They jokingly say "go get another client" when they want me to buy them something. And I (almost) never miss their special events. But they see me working hard -- up early to draft some client report, up late to respond to a West Coast client. I think they are seeing that life and work are all part of a single continuum -- not a separate thing. One side feeds the other and back again. That's good -- I think. Thank you for sharing -- now I am going to go create my own timeline and see what it looks like. If that's not in Arlin's book, make a footnote to add it! ~ahg3
Joe Panettieri (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Arthur: Hey, thanks. Good to be in touch. Building a business involves so much irony. Most folks do it to pursue freedom. But ultimately the business you build locks you into new commitments. In my case I still feel free. Very free. And still having fun. Let me know how your timeline turns out. -jp
Chris Chase (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Joe, Nice to read about your journey. Triggers so many thoughts about our own experience. Leadership and Business have been the easy parts (not to discount that they are difficult, but in comparison to what Arlin teaches, that seems harder from where I sit). Just like you said. I don't know how hard the legacy and life part will be. I'm anxious to start. My kids are 17 and 19 now. I lost so many of the early years working like crazy. I'm often sad that it "felt" like it had to be that way. I feel if I had some type of peer group or some older experienced folks to learn from, it would have been different. Fast forward to today and I'm in a unique situation that the entire family is involved in the business and we get to spend lots of good times together and not "just working" either. We all enjoy the business and are motivated daily by each other. So in a sense, maybe it paid off because this is the time when most kids move far away and you go into "see you next holiday" mode. I'm in love with the idea of us all staying together and being involved in each others lives on a regular basis. It's so cool. My next serious non business goal is to work on life balance and also bringing it to the staff as well. Everyone needs to learn these skills as early as possible and we work with a lot of young talented people. Some of them would work around the clock if I let them, sometimes I feel like I'm setting that (bad) example for them and it's not the most healthy lifestyle. You can only live on 3-4 hours of sleep a day for so long. I need to get my hands on that book. :) I'm ready to begin! I'm nervous how to accomplish this while at the same time taking the business to an even higher level with such big dreams. But I know it can be done, I've seen my peers do it. It's been great watching you guys grow and you know I'm a big fan! :) -Chris Chase Directive/JoomConnect
Joe Panettieri (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Chris: I've always been a fan of you and your business, and I recall meeting one of your sons at an IT event more than a year ago. I recall how disappointed my own dad was when his kids (including me) respectfully declined to join him in business. We just didn't have the skills or drive to succeed in the market he mastered: Real estate. So you're incredibly lucky to have the family along for the ride -- and shaping your future. The "book" Arlin handed to me is a true workbook. More than reading, you work through the book. I keep promising to open the book tonight. And I will. But here's a funny aside: I'm typing this comment while my wife is on the line with JetBlue booking our next family vacation. My kids are excited to see the Grand Canyon with us this summer. Another trip they'll never forget... made possible by Nine Lives plus the team (Charlene, Jessica, and more) that allows me to really disappear when I need to. Looking forward to seeing you and the JoomConnect gang soon. -jp
Chris Chase (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Grand Canyon is def on my bucket list and my camera's. :) Seriously it's on the short list so let me know any tips you learn about planning a trip there. -Chris
Joe Panettieri (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Hey Chris: I've got the preliminary itinerary all worked out. I'll be sure to post it once we book everything. Would you believe it includes a non-business stop in Las Vegas, of all places? More to come... -jp
Arlin Sorensen (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Wow JP. I am humbled by your comments and excited by your focus. Planning is part of the 20 mile march we all need to have to make sure we spend our time on the things that matter. It starts with legacy and life, because at the end of the day, those are the things that we truly live for and will care about when all is said and done. Leadership helps us take those two into our business. There is no true separation between life and work - it is simply a matter of managing the continual tension so that life wins in the tug of war we all wrestle with. I'm grateful to be part of your journey, as you are in mine. We need one another to help point to the things that are important so we don't get caught up in the urgent. Thanks for being one of those guys in my patch! Arlin
Joe Panettieri (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Arlin: It's a heck of a journey, eh? My focus has always been flawed -- I tend to get obsessive about whatever I'm tackling at the current moment. Hopefully, I'm mellowing in a good way on that. Looking forward to the next conversation. Best wishes in the meantime. -jp
Karen Franse (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Joe: Such a heartfelt column; it's sure to be one of your best. Thanks for addressing something we all struggle with in such a personal way. We've all had ups and downs in life as well as in business so I think it's something everyone can relate to. I well remember traveling for work multiple times a month, leaving a small teary-eyed child begging me not to go. And then there was the day in my office when I rushed that same precious little boy out the door so I could jump on a conference call ... he said something to me that day that changed my life and my perspective ... "Mommy, I thought you were going to DO something about this." And I did. That very day I left the corporate world and shortly after started my own business, then later joined a friend (Arthur Germain) in his agency. The career change brought with it ownership of my own time, and that spelled freedom; I was able to pursue other dreams in addition to my career as a result. If we want balance, we have to do something about it. We can have successful careers and fulfilling family lives; there are trade-offs and negotiations and challenges along the way, but it can be done. The one thing - perhaps the most important thing - I've come to realize along my own quest for balance is that we only live once. If my life is out of balance, it's up to me to change it. If I have a dream, I can live it. Sometimes, you just have to take a leap of faith and pursue it. Clearly, you know that too - you've done it. My family has too. We moved to the rainforest on a Caribbean island for three years. Money was tight, there were pros and cons, but overall, it was the best time of our lives and I wouldn't trade that time with my family in that idyllic setting for anything in the world. You can't do it next life. We were truly blessed through the experience and it made us realize that there are many ways to find happiness and balance in this world once you make the decision to pursue your dreams and take that first step, wherever it may lead. -- Karen Franse
Joe Panettieri (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Karen: Thanks for all those details. The rainforest move sounds incredible. Absolutely incredible. My wife just booked all the tickets for this summer's trip to the Grand Canyon. There's no turning back now... which is pretty awesome. It's not quite the Caribbean move you made. But it's a start ;-) Congrats on your work with Arthur. I love the fact that he positions himself as a Brand Storyteller rather than a PR guy. And the stories the agency shares have been pretty awesome. Keep listening to your son, too. I'm doing the same. Monday, I visited my youngest son's classroom to explain my career. His exact words: "Dad types a lot." But I also managed to keep it real, offering his class this twist on what I do all day: http://www.thevarguy.com/games Keep it real. -jp
Brian O'Shaughnessy (not verified)
on Mar 6, 2013
Joe Thanks for sharing. In my opinion, transparency is where leadership starts. No question, that comes naturally to you, and the reason why you're so widely followed. I wanted to comment on the guide passed on by Arlin. I've been in HTG for more than four years. Part of our homework has always been to complete the four plans. I've always completed the homework, but rarely did I put my heart into it. I've always believed in the importance of the plans, but there was always something more important to do. Last Saturday, I locked myself in a hotel room an hour from home with the HTG planning guide. Using the book to guide me through the process was extremely valuable. When the weekend was over, I left with version 1 complete. For the first time EVER, I'm able to make consciousness decisions that impact how I'll be remembered by my family, employees and friends. If you're interested, I'd be happy to share my "life map" and discuss with you. My final comment is one that echoes your appreciation for Arlin and his leadership. I give him, and my HTG peers, the credit for straightening out my business and many aspects of my life. Good luck with your planning. If I can help, please reach out to me.
Arlin Sorensen (not verified)
on Mar 7, 2013
JP One more quick note. We are doing a free webinar on the HTG Four Plans on March 13 at 2PM central. People can get more information at http://www.htgmembers.com/Webinar_PlanningForSuccess.htm. Love to have anyone interested in learning about planning their legacy, life, leadership and business join to see what we're talking about. Blessings. Arlin
Joe Panettieri (not verified)
on Mar 7, 2013
Brian@13: I will definitely ping you to compare notes once I've gotten my plan together. Regarding Transparency, I tend to go to extremes. I'm mostly silent out on Facebook. I tend to keep the family stuff pretty silent except for occasional outbursts here. Arlin@14: I'll be there. -jp
Al Parks Jr. (not verified)
on Mar 7, 2013
Always great to see success stories. I work with smaller workplace groups and I was here trying to get some new ideas to give them when we meet on how to get to the point that they feel successful in what they have acheived. I have been using Ronald Coopers How to Win in Life in a Greater Way, and that has really been a great tool for me. I recommend that to anyone looking for a great motivating tool for themselves or their respective groups! ronaldacooper.com is his site, worth looking at. Great to read these posts, and the comments as well!
Amy Katz
on Mar 7, 2013
How lucky am I? Seriously folks - I do have the best business partner ever. And the best team as well - thanks to everyone for coming along on this journey with us. It's not over by a long shot.
Stacey Cochran (not verified)
on Mar 7, 2013
Great Article, Joe! Arlin has done some amazing work in the SMB world and love that he adds in the personal, the spiritual, and the professional into his "work". If you do what you love, it's really not work! The biggest lesson I can give my son is that of Leadership, and what that truly means. He has seen both my wife and I run our own businesses and me also work in the corporate world, with all the trappings of a job that requires some time in airports and hotels. With today's technologies, I am able to limit that, and connect with him when I away. It also helps me to drive a thirst for knowledge in him and teach him about where I travel to, and even occasionally take him to some of those places as well. Hope to make the webinar! Congrats on the success!
Stacey Cochran (not verified)
on Mar 7, 2013
Arlin, any chance that webinar will be recorded? Will be on a boat in the middle of the ocean. I hear that Carnival is offering free extension, but hoping I miss out on that one...
Justin Crotty
on Mar 7, 2013
Proud to know you. Justin
Ted Hulsy (not verified)
on Mar 7, 2013
All I know, is I would love to be a fly on the wall with a peer group with Larry Walsh, Joe Panettieri, and Steve Burke... talking life/work balance. Ted Hulsy VP, Marketing eFolder
Joe Panettieri (not verified)
on Mar 7, 2013
Al@16: Thanks for the ronaldacooper.com link. I'll check it out. Amy@17: Fancy meeting you here. Stacey@18, @19: I rarely blend business travel with family travel. But the rare instances have been pretty special. My middle son and I did three major Disney parks (Magic Kingdom, Epcot, Hollywood Studios) the evening after an IT event in Orlando. Photos from that night now line his bedroom wall. Thinking about a repeat for IT Nation 2013... Justin@20: Dinner. Miami 2011 or so? Awesome. Ted@21: Here's a classic moment -- Larry Walsh and I were seated at an IBM MSP QA session at PartnerWorld last week. Mike Vizard was there. As were representatives from CRN and the top Canadian media brands. Larry and I had a great laugh, noticing how rare it was for us all to be locked in a room together. Burke wasn't there... but I'm sure his echo ("hey buddy") could be heard at some partner conference that week. It's great to be part of this industry. -jp
Chris Phillips (not verified)
on Mar 7, 2013
Always great to read about our work colleagues lives intersect with their real personal lives. We all know a lot of people, but to hear about someone's real life is terrific. Arlin has been an inspiration to so many business owners for so long, to help them personally and professionally. I am so glad I met him during my time at Ingram. And always love to read TheVarGuy AND Channelnomics. It's great to support those that go out on their own and speak for the IT channel in such a great way. BTW I'm looking for a job :)
Dan Sturgill (not verified)
on Mar 7, 2013
There is no message out there more consistent and relevant to my life than whatever Arlin has to say on any given day. "This" will all end someday and then what? To me personally, kindness and honesty among us all is super critical. Arlin is proof that model works! Onward and upward Joe! (forward,even) Dan
Brad Schow (not verified)
on Mar 7, 2013
Congratulations Joe on your success and impact over the past five plus years! Also great that you're investing some time in thinking through the long term reality for you, your business and your family. Important to provide for and protect what you're working so hard to create!
Jay McBain (not verified)
on Mar 7, 2013
Joe, this was an awesome blog - I read it twice. I think we first crossed paths in 2009 and I have read every blog since - you are a gifted writer and even a better person.
Joe Panettieri (not verified)
on Mar 7, 2013
Chris@23: Keep us posted as you nail down your career pursuits. Dan@24: Onward and upward for LVHD too. Brad@25: That January 2011 meeting with Amy in Connecticut helped me to really think long-term. I don't worry much about short-term setbacks at all anymore. They happen all the time... Jay@26: Not sure if I ever mentioned this, but you were the first person who ever mentioned "BYOD" to me. I made you repeat the acronym and tell me what it meant. Best wishes for a great wedding this summer. -jp
Jeannine Edwards (not verified)
on Mar 8, 2013
i heart this blog entry and i heart my pals JP and AK. great read. :)
John Rice (not verified)
on Mar 20, 2013
Joe, The Grand Canyon is a great place for a vacation. I am working on getting myself in shape to complete a hike from the south rim to the north rim (rim to rim) in September. It is a 21 mile journey that takes about 12 hours to complete. You are certainly in good company with Arlin. He is one person I know who will have not problem in the legacy department. He has and continues to change the lives of many, many people.
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